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Fireside Chats Ep11: Austin Jones Creator of The Legal Armor Piercing Handgun Round

In 1982 NBC ran a “Prime Time” special on Teflon-coated bullets labeling them “armored piercing” bullets. Their “expert” claimed that the Teflon increased the bullet’s penetration power by 20%. The news show argued that these bullets were a danger to police. In this special, NBC created the term “cop killer” for all armor-piercing bullets.

In August of 1986 HR 3132 — PL 99-408 was passed by Congress and signed by President Reagan. The new law would ban any handgun round that’s core consisted of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium. It would also prohibit any handgun round whose jacket weights more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.

Libertarian aerospace engineer, Austin Jones, didn’t like the fact that the government had access to the armored piercing handguns rounds, but the government prevented the general public from owning them. He viewed the law as tyrannical.

Austin started the Atlas Arms non-profit with the goal of producing an armor piercing handgun round that didn’t violate the ban by using the knowledge of material sciences and engineering that he acquired from designing micro shielding for spacecraft. He plans on releasing how to make the round to the public domain.

I talk to Austin about his libertarian views, the projects of Atlas Arms, his background, politics, and Steampunk.

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Fireside Chats is a weekly podcast presented by the Patriot News Podcast which can be found on

On the show, Firearms Journalist, John Crump, talks to the difference makers in and out of the firearms community. He digs deep into these people’s minds to find out what makes them tick. Each free form conversation is one to two hours in length and covers a variety of topics.

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CEO & Co-Founder Black Swan Media Group, LLC

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